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  i wonder....

  by kittyeatzjdubs in

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  i toy with the idea of doing this sometimes just for fun...i was wondering if you guys think it would work...i was thinking of going to an out of town congregation where no one knows me and just introducing myself as a visiting witness.

  no one would know i was dsf'd...would they?.

  of course i wouldn't give my real name...it just seems so funny to me b/c i could so totally play up the zealous pioneer b.s.

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  zen nudist

  raise your hand for every question and start off

  well, we know that the apostates are saying such and such and so and so....

  and then give the lamest JW answer possible to defend the troof!
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  Should Intelligent Design be taught in schools?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  kansas is holding a debate to decide.

  http://www.cnn.com/2005/education/05/02/life.evolution.reut/index.html.

  topeka, kansas (reuters) -- evolution is going on trial in kansas.. eighty years after a famed courtroom battle in tennessee pitted religious beliefs about the origins of life against the theories of british scientist charles darwin, kansas is holding its own hearings on what school children should be taught about how life on earth began.. the kansas board of education has scheduled six days of courtroom-style hearings to begin thursday in topeka.

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  if by intelligent design they mean to show how an intelligent being can put something together, perhaps this would be ok...but if they mean that no known answer fits, that is not intelligent design, that is no clue, no theory, no explanation...and does not default to intelligence.
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  Evolution of Man

  by bavman in

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  2. beliefs

  here's a question for all you who have been studying evoluition much longer than me.

  i have read in a few places that man has all but stopped evolving.

  is this what is really being taught by science and why?

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  zen nudist

  lets not leave out how sexual selections pressures have been greatly eased by the invention of beer and other spirits (^_^)
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  Have You Ever Had Any Weird Dreams???

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i had a dream that a former (stupid) elder called me at 6 a.m. to tell me that he wanted to let me know that he was calling for the body of elders, that they asked him to call me to get together and answer some questions.

  i said, "and you're calling me at 6 in the morning?

  why???

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  zen nudist

  I want to know how come I never had wonderful dreams about the 'new system'? The only dreams I ever had related to JWs were negative ones--demons out to get me or that I died at Armageddon. Interesting that I never had any positive ones.

  think of the dream world as made of many mountains.... and a fogbank which hides the "real" world... only those peaks which are above the fog become part of the dreamscape....and those only make it that high because of emotional energy. positive imaginary things like fantasy worlds of paradise usually command such emotional energy and so stay below the clouds one reason that so many dreams seem odd after awakening is that the dream weaver fills in the missing parts between the mountain peaks with best guessing.... and because these peaks are not normally found in any real situation together, what is woven together is often novel and unsual.
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  Have You Ever Had Any Weird Dreams???

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i had a dream that a former (stupid) elder called me at 6 a.m. to tell me that he wanted to let me know that he was calling for the body of elders, that they asked him to call me to get together and answer some questions.

  i said, "and you're calling me at 6 in the morning?

  why???

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  the oddest dreams I have had have been some of the lucid dreams where I encounter an invisible entity which seems to have

  a very odd sense of humor.... this entity never speaks to me but often drags me around the dreamscape.

  one time.... I wanted to fly up to a 2nd floor window of a neighbor's house... I had never been in that floor and wanted to see if the dream world matched the "real" world.... I got right up to the window, had my hands on the window pane and was about to peek inside when

  suddenly this invisible entity grabbed me and shot me through the glass, shattering it and making me wake up totally startled

  I had never encountered him/her/it before and it came as quite a shock to find out that some part of me was able to act so independently as an apparent seperate entity...

  which is why I came to understand that it is quite possible that all of you are not any different...fragmented parts of my own psyche (^_^)
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  Hi yall dont google :)

  by IP_SEC in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok i got an email about the google thing.. .

  the post about google in the june km is unverified but it in essence was .

  dont use search engines to find our sites because they will take you to apostate sites.. i didnt copy the post in to this message because when i copied it into my thread about pms, the whole thread became inaccessable.. ipsec

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  dont press this button
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  Letting it all...

  by zanex in

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  go.... we never want to hear mom say, "no" .

  we never want to see dad shake his head.

  the wish to feel the love not sent from above.

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  zen nudist

  the past is a ghost who haunts the unwary

  it seems to close and so scary.

  yet being dead

  it can not cause true dread

  power we give it without knowing

  its energetic might is flowing

  but, its all in our head.
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  Have You Ever Had Any Weird Dreams???

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i had a dream that a former (stupid) elder called me at 6 a.m. to tell me that he wanted to let me know that he was calling for the body of elders, that they asked him to call me to get together and answer some questions.

  i said, "and you're calling me at 6 in the morning?

  why???

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  zen nudist

  I suspect that some dreams might be views into parallel worlds...or at least what if worlds our own mind invents in its spare time
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  JW Control over Our Personal Conscience

  by paws in

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  here in england we are currently celebrating v. e. day which reminds us overwhelmingly of the individual sacrifices too numerous to imagine that prevented our country being taken over by the nazi regime.

  as a jw i was told that if i supported any charities such as the poppy day for the veterans and their families, i was actually supporting the whole idea of the war and would therefore be opposing the kingdom.

  foolishly, i felt i had no choice but to 'ignore my heart' and its desire to indicate my appreciation to those who sacrificed the ultimate on my behalf.

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  zen nudist

  you can't be hypnotized against your own will...but you can be manipulated to think that you should allow others to lead you and give up your resistance to their directions when you believe it is in your best interest to do so.
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  Have You Ever Had Any Weird Dreams???

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i had a dream that a former (stupid) elder called me at 6 a.m. to tell me that he wanted to let me know that he was calling for the body of elders, that they asked him to call me to get together and answer some questions.

  i said, "and you're calling me at 6 in the morning?

  why???

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  zen nudist

  everything we know is basically from a map in our brain which originated partly from the world as we have experienced it...

  our consciousness is like two lights...one very bright which illuminates the map from our sensory data...eyes, ears, nose, etc...

  the other is very dim...the light of imagination, memory, thoughts, etc....

  when the bright light goes out... the dim light seen all by itself can be mistaken for the bright light...and we find ourself in a realm which is strictly from the map...but since the bright light normally came from senses stabilized by a shared world, it had a consistancy to it that was not based on our current anxieties or thinking....this is not so for the light of imagination which works more by associative links rather than cause and effect linear time.... the world maker, the part of our brain which actually invents the world we know, does the best it can with the data availible and so the dream world will have a resemblance of consistancy as the world maker fills in details from other memories.

  just as you can tell a stop sign behind a tree by a tiny corner, the world maker invents entire scenerios from very tiny bits of data...the source of which is often things happening around your sleeping body being translated into the active dream.... since the memory requires a certain amount of energy to store memories, the sleeping world is often simply not transfered from short to long term and if you dont wake up until it ends, chances are good you will never remember even having a dream.

  emotional hot spots in the map tend to draw the dim light.... unfinished business, anxieities, hanging memories where parts are now missing, etc.